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Nanara
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 Second past life regression excercise
again.. old.. unedited .. please excuse typos and grammar.. too lazy to run through MSword
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Technically the other one (guided meditation) I posted is the first method, so here's a second method. And for an individual to use rather than with another person or a group. One thing to remember, always start a regression with the intent to go into a regression and remember a past life. If you want to be safe, add to the intention that it be a positive memory or one you can learn from.
[Oh, and yes I know my spelling and grammar are probably terrible, my previous ways of checking such things (MSWord) have died due to an over abundance of sucky with my computer, so if there's anything bad just let me know and I'll fix it.]
Step One
Get into a meditative state of mind. When I say meditative mindset I mean calm, relaxed, without any racing thoughts or emotions, generally also a meditative mindstate is a sensation of viewing yourself externally, not in an astral sense but more in a sense of perception, any thoughts you do have going through your mind you have no connection to them and are likely to be able take thoughts or memories in your mind and analyse them objectively. I tend to have a sensation of having two sets of eyes or a slight sensation of being cross eyed, but I've not heard others describe this sensation so it could just be me and my wierdness.
This is the method I have used in the past to get into the appropriate mindstate for a self regression:
Breath meditation
In general a breath meditation can be done sitting up or lying down (best not standing because it can lower your blood pressure and make you faint), I'd recommend in this case to do this lying down. If you fall asleep, try again when you're more awake.
The purpose of a breath meditation is to control your breath (inhale/exhale/hold) with a great deal of discipline and focus.
First start off close your eyes and start breathing deeply and comfortably, focus your attention on your breath, relax, and start to calm your mind, make sure you are comfortable, when lying, lie flat unless you have physical problems that stop you from doing so, the purpose is to be comfortable in a way you can stay in that position for an extended amount of time.
When you're relaxed, calm, comfortable and able to fully focus on your breathing start to control your breath, breath in, hold, breath out, hold. At each stage do it for as long as you can, fill your lungs in and intake, slowly. Hold for as long as you can. Exhale all of the air in your lungs as slowly as possible. Hold again for as long as you can. Now we add counting to the mix. Unless you're quite fit or have good breath to begin with, most people can start with a 4/4 count, this means, count for 4 on the inhale, 4 hold, 4 exhale, 4 hold. If you struggle with the 4/4, start with a 4/2 which is 4 inhale, hold 2, 4 exhale, hold 2. Some people with very bad breathing may need to start slowly, people who smoke or/and or breath shallowly might have to start exhaling more than inhaling. If you've got a problem with asthma or similar go very very slowly and stop the moment you have trouble.
*The counting rate is what feels like every second, but ends up being a similar rate to a normal stationary heart rate. But the purpose is to go at a constant and as slow as possible rate.*
So using the counting extend the length of breathing. Start at 4/4 or some can do 8/8 first off depending on your fitness etc. Once you get to a point in a breathing count where it is easy to do that count (you don't have to push through the urge to breath more near the end of each section of counts), go onto to the next one, these go up in 2-4 count increments.
A healthy person can probably go up through 4/4, 8/8, 12/12, 14/14 without too much hassle or pain. Remember if the count is x/x' it's: inhale x counts, hold x' counts, exhale x counts, hold x' counts.
If you have troubles you can make the counts smaller, such as 4/4, 8/4, 8/8, 12/8, 12/12 etc or make the numbers go up only in 2s, such as 4/4, 6/6, 8/8, 10/10, etc. This breath technique is actually quite good as simiply a meditative technique, so you can practise to see what works best for you.
The basic goal is to get the control to get up to an 18/18 count. Or if that's too hard, to get each breath to be as long and deep as you are able to.
Step Two
This helps if you have a visually orientated imagination.
Imagine yourself standing on a beach, focus your mind on the sounds and sights of being on a beach, hear the seagulls, and the gentle waves comeing in, sunlight, warmth and safety. Notice nearby on the edge of the waterline is a small flat bottomed boat.
Go over to the boat, push it into the water and get into it. Let it take you out to sea, watch the shoreline slowly receede away from you. When you're ready lie down in the bottom of the boat and enjoy the gentle rocking of the water and the warm sun. Relax, feel yourself relaxing. Now close your eyes in the boat. So you still feel the rocking boat, hear the water lapping at the boat, and feel the sun on your face and skin. Continue to breath long deep breaths. Lie in that feeling of peace and warmth and safety for a while. Hold it in your mind.
After a while let go of the feeling of the boat being solid, feel yourself slowly seep into the boats floor, falling slowly through it as if it were mud, keep falling down feel yourself seep down into the water (keep your eyes closed just feel this). The water is warm and still, and you become aware of only the feeling of falling gently down and down, further into the sea water. You can of course breath this water, so keep breathing deeply, slowly and calmly.
As you continue to fall down in the warm water start realising that you're actually travelling down into yourself. Let yourself continue to fall gently down, and continue to breath deeply and slowly, but be aware of what you're looking for within yourself, you're looking for real memories of past lives.
Let yourself fall focussing on the intent of experiencing memories, breathing slowly and deeply and falling in that comfortable safe darkness.
It might take a couple of attempts, but at some point you should land, or experience some kind of different sensation that will lead you to open your eyes (in the meditation, not in the physical body sense), and observe what is around you.
If it doesn't happen on it's own, slowly change the sensation of falling through warm water to one of drifting down through clouds (like a feather - it's not good to fall hard into the ground). Feel the clouds around on the skin, sunlight, and then let yourself fall gently and land on the ground with the intent that where you're landing is a past life. Then when you're ready look around and keep a note of whats happening around you.
Step Three
Some people through this method experience their past life memories as if they were a visitor to the memory (kind of like a ghost), others fall into their past selves viewpoint and watch.
The important thing to remember is to note as much as you're able to, if you're aware enough of your surroundings, see if your other self knows what year it is (if it's a human life), where you are, what you're wearing, what you're doing, etc, be careful to be as aware as you can of the surrounding environment.
Also, if it's a traumatic thing, you are afraid, and wish to leave (or just wish to leave anyway), just close your eyes again and reverse the process. So imagine yourself floating upwards through the clouds and then fade into floating up through the water, up through the bottom of the boat and relax in that space of warm, comforting safety. Once you get back to the boat you can focus on your physical body, wriggle fingers take a deep breath come back to an awareness of your physical self. Then open your physical eyes.
Warning: do not sit up or stand up immediately upon opening your eyes, you will probably fall over (your blood pressure lowers in this deep meditative state and if your circulation is already sucky you will faint or fall over). Take deep breaths, and get your breathing to a more normal awake rate. If in the breath meditation you managed to get very far, I would highly recommend reversing the counting system to get back to a more normal state of breathing and awareness. Then move slowly. First sit up, then with caution stand.
I'd recommend you have a pen and paper handy to you so that while you're adjusting your breathing you can write down everything you experienced.
Sometimes, this meditation puts you in a mental space that isn't a memory. Don't discount it if it isn't a memory, usually that state of mind gives your deeper self the ability to communicate a message or something similar to you, so even if it isn't a memory it will have some importance or relevance.
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 Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2007 8:01 am Last edited by Nanara on Tue Apr 29, 2008 11:48 pm; edited 1 time in total
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Thank you for posting this, Nanara, I think there are a lot of members who can benefit from this. I know I plan to milk it for what it's worth 
I have a question, though; would it be alright to tweak certain parts of the excercise a little, such as standing on the beach/falling through the clouds at night, and instead of feeling the sunlight on your face, feeling moonlight? I ask this because even in excercises like this, sunlight can screw up my system. Day and I do not mix. Not changing it overall, just making it more comfortable for the one trying it.
Also, the breathing excercise is indeed perfect as simply a meditation technique.
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Yes, please do alter it. What works the progression of relaxation and the sinking into our metaphorical depths, the more you adapt the visual details for your needs the more effective it'll be for you.
The constants are the water, and relaxing and floating on the water, then sinking into the water. Water generally symbolises our subconscious, our depths that are hidden, so you travel through it into yourself into the memory. So if you can figure out another way of doing that progression that suits you better, that's good, it should work better for you.
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Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 2:38 am
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Bump number 2.
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Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 11:46 pm
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I think I'll try this one when I get better. For now, I'll work on the deep breathing, is that okay?
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Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 1:24 am
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Thanks for putting this up! I hope to make good use of it.
Okay, I did this, but I don't think I did it correctly and/or was imagining stuff. The first time I landed (red flag # 1, for me) I was greeted by a wolf spirit whom I've seen recently in meditations and life in general. But, if I've sunk into my soul, or into myself then what's she doing there? The impression (and by "impression" I mean the unspoken message) I got was that she dwelled here, this was her home. Anyway, she seemed to be like a spirit guide. She spoke to me, interacted, and was definitely a separate consciousness.
Then I explored the area a little more (snowy forest) I there was a flash of purple and darkness and suddenly I was reliving something, a few brief moments, as a wolf. Then a flash and I was disoriented. Then another flash and I was the same wolf again, hunting down a rabbit. Then the same flash.
I had a bit of a conversation with the other wolf and she said she was like my current spirit guide, but never actually said she was a spirit guide (that I remember, she didn't seem entirely wolf, either). But, either way, she told me to sink again, only this time in the clouds, so I did.
Flash! These were getting mildly aggravating, since I twitched every time they occurred. I was falling, though. I was in the air, and I was light, but I was falling. I had a purpose, a job to do, and I was falling into someone. Flash! I was standing next to an old woman in a hospital bed and I got the impression (unspoken message) that she was about to die and I was supposed to be there, for one reason or another.
So, my questions are:
1) How contrived does this sound to you?
2) Is it possible to remember memories from different lives during the same session?
3) Is this more likely imagination?
Right now, I'm leaning towards imagination, but I know the other wolf was real, and the wolf memory with the rabbit seemed incredibly real, as did the old-woman-memory.
Thanks!
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Um... first up... the interesting thing about meditative and visual-based regression techniques is that they are hardly ever the same experiences as everyone else or between sessions. There are no hard and fast rules.
My spirit guides come with me on my journeys, sometimes they choose different forms (like my guide Raven is usually in a man form, but sometimes he travels with me as a grey wolf or an actual crow/raven, my healing guide Histhia is usually a mesopotaemian woman form, but sometimes she takes on the form of a grey silvery owl or sometimes even a winged humanoid... Anpu who is my Reiki guide often takes the form of an egyptian man but sometimes he is a living shadow or some kind of dog creature). Even when I journey into myself my guides often come with me.
Your inner world doesn't really work like the physical world, everything has many different meanings... like a complicated vivid dream... so you sort of have to take everything as symbolic or having many different underlying meanings and not just the literal sense of what you see or experience.
I would say that perhaps what you experienced needs a little more exploration. Make sure you've recorded everything you experienced on the day that you did this exercise so that the memory doesn't warp as you explore it more next time. If it isn't a literal memory... it could still hold some of your answers in another form.. so it helps to keep a detailed record of everything you do so you can go back and read it later and think about it.
I tend to take every memory or everything I get in meditation as something that could be real OR imagination. As in, we can't know for certain, so sort of allow that memory/experience to be in a maybe state of being. It could be, and it could not be... we can't really be certain, we can only explore how the feel about it and analize it with as much objective thought and reason as we're able to. It may or may not help to try the exercise again... and keep in your mind the intention to find more out about this particular memory, otherwise you may find more memories that are unrelated.. and then you've got more questions to add to the already large pile... 
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Thanks, I wasn't sure this was an appropriate post or appropriate place for it, but I appreciate the feedback. I'll definitely keep working on it, thanks again.
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Posted: Thu May 21, 2009 3:54 am
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Hello. I realize this post is pretty old but I just tried this exercise and it left me confused to say the least. I don't know where to post this but I would really like another opinion. I'm pretty new to all this.
Anyway, I started with the deep breathing exercises. While I found I could do 8/8 and up counts I felt like I could concentrate more on the meditation with 4/4 counts. I imagined the beach and the boat and began to sink into the water. I was only floating for a few seconds (I forgot about the clouds) I felt myself pulled down into myself pretty firmly and decided to just go with it. I got a glimpse of what I believe was the Forbidden City in China, I'm really into Chinese culture so I'm not entirely sure if that one was my imagination or not. The strange thing was, my vision was in black and white. However, I didn't realize this until after I came out of meditation, it just seemed normal. Then the vision stopped and I felt my mouth opening. I was still in a meditative state and had no control over this action. My mouth kept opening wider and wider. I could feel my jaw aching and stretching and I opened my eyes slightly still in the meditative state. I remember thinking briefly that it felt like my jaw was trying to reshape itself almost like...a wolf. As soon as the thought finished, BAM! there was a very quick flash of a snowy forest and then this painting of a brown wolf with silvery hair around its mane and snout with its jaws wide open. My eyes snapped open (somewhere I suppose they closed) and I found myself making these gasping and low hissing noises. My teeth bared, I rolled off my bed (I was lying down on it on my back), and landed on the floor on all floors with an insane urge to stretch my spine and jaw, still hissing. I think I was starting to come back to myself because thoughts of rabbits and hunting clashed with my concious thoughts of my being a vegetarian and listening to my otherkin friends talk about the urge to kill earlier today.
I don't know what to make of it. Was I a wolf in a past life? Were there wolves in China? I'm writing this before doing any research myself so my recollection won't be accidently comprimised. Sorry, I know it's long but I would love to know what anyone thinks.
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I wouldn't take it at face value as a memory. Think about, analyze it, and basically put it through an "internal processor" before coming to any sort of conclusion. That would be my advice, anyways.
Also, what happened after the possible memory sounds like some sort of mental shift. Could be wrong though *shrugs*
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Firstly, I'm sorry to take so long to get back to you on this.
Secondly, this exercise is meant to be a guide, the idea is to take the ideas in this exercise and adapt them for yourself and your own practise, so please don't worry about changing the breath count cycles or other little details.
Thirdly, as Eternity suggested, I too agree that the last part sounds a bit like a mental shift. There's no one way of knowing why or how it happened or if it's definitely a past life memory experience. That is up to you to analyse and think about, then come to your own conclusions about.
What I would recommend is that you try it again, but this time focus on the intention that you want something clear and something a little less physically orientated for you. It might help to light a candle while you think about what you expect to accomplish and any limitations you would like to set down. Generally, it's a part of you that decides what you will or will not experience, so if you establish what your goals and expectations are before you start it should prevent any further negative experiences. If you have further negative experiences, write out what you experienced, and then do not use this meditation again... maybe try and find another method of regression, or simply let any memories you may get come naturally. In such things it's really better to er on the side of caution, especially if you don't have a more experienced person to help guide you. You don't want to create false memories or upset yourself with stuff that may not have any basis of truth.
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 I do realize this is an old post, but I have a question....
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I heard somewhere that you're not supposed to meditate too often. That you should wait a week between meditations because then you risk altering your "trips". Is this true?
Also the purpose of the breathing. It's just to get you calm correct? Like, as calm as you would be if you were asleep?
How long does this method of meditation take the first time doing it usually?
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Re: I do realize this is an old post, but I have a question....
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I heard somewhere that you're not supposed to meditate too often. That you should wait a week between meditations because then you risk altering your "trips". Is this true?
Also the purpose of the breathing. It's just to get you calm correct? Like, as calm as you would be if you were asleep?
How long does this method of meditation take the first time doing it usually? |
Meditation is simply the attainment of an altered mindstate. You can meditate as much as you like. And it's not really a "trip" in the same context as a drug-induced experience. It's like... almost falling asleep... or day dreaming... your consciousness changes it's experience of reality.
The purpose of the breathing is to lower your heart rate, quieten your mind and body and help facilitate a shift in mindstate. Sleeping is a different mindstate, so yes, it's related. You might want to look at the different kinds of brainwaves... Delta... I think... is either sleep or deep meditation. Urg.. too tired to remember properly.
And, how long? Well... unfortunately.. the answer is the same as for the question "how long is a piece of string" - it takes as long as it takes. I was doing this meditation in 30 to 60 minute blocks. But I couldn't sit that long any more. Usually, it takes longer the first time you do it because it's the first time and you don't know what to expect. But that's about as much as I can answer for "how long".
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Awesome. Thanks for the help. (I do realize it's not the same as a drug trip, but I didn't have a good word for it. Sorry :/)
I'll research the different kinds of brainwaves and see about it. Thank you.
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