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Mike (Clodaus)
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 Support the Community's Filing
As a 501(c)(3) non-profit charity; information on goals and current state
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At first, I wasn't sure how far the Community would go. But since it is beginning to grow, I want to continue with its initial plans. Within the next year, I will be incorporating The Otherkin Community with New York State and filing as a 501(c)(3) non-profit charity with the IRS. This will, among other things, make all donations to the Community tax-deductible and free the Community from income taxes and state taxes. This also serves as a representation - to show that the Community is serious about its goals.
Plans - Past, Present and Future
Over the next year I'll be working on the new Community website to give us a better appearance. During that time the Community will, for the most part, remain as it was - traveling by the word of mouth. I did this for one simple reason - advertising draws the wrong crowd. I wanted to gain a solid foundation of people that would respect (and hopefully support) the Community's goals. That foundation will continue to grow over the next year.
Once the Community becomes incorporated, it will slowly begin to go public and peruse its goals. Those goals depend on the support we get through donations and other planned fund raising strategies (such as products and services) and are as follows:
- To provide services for the discussion of Otherkin culture and metaphysical sciences;
- To spread information and awareness of Otherkin culture and metaphysical sciences;
- To promote acceptance and tolerance of Otherkin culture and metaphysical sciences;
- To serve as a hub for individuals and other organizations who wish to distribute their theories, information and research on Otherkin culture and metaphysical sciences;
- To promote the development of metaphysical sciences by performing and funding experiments to test proposed theories and distributing the results and analysis of such experiments;
- To coordinate a series of public gatherings in the interest of Otherkin culture, metaphysical sciences, or both;
- To establish a global presence (both virtually and physically) from which individuals may receive information, support, and meet others who share their beliefs.
Due to the ambiguity of certain terms, the following have been defined:
(a)The term “Otherkin” represents a diverse culture among which individuals share a popular core belief, but may hold separate beliefs, faiths and opinions.
(b)The term “metaphysical sciences” refers both to a theoretical science and an art or practice.
Once the Certificate of Incorporation is complete, as well as any by-laws, they will also be displayed. Details of the above goals will be provided elsewhere and may be requested via PM, e-mail, or simply asking on the forums.
How You Can Help
The process of incorporating isn't free - while I will pay the cost with or without support from the members, I ask for any contributions, however small, to help support the Community's goals. The total will come to $385, which includes:
- Receiving consent from the New York State Department of Education: $10
- Filing with the New York Department of State: $75
- Filing with the IRS for tax-exempt status: $300
More information, including information on donating, can be found here: http://www.otherkincommunity.org/wiki/The_Otherkin_Community:Site_support#Help_With_The_Otherkin_Community.27s_Filing.21
Note for those who are wondering: consent from the Department of Education is required because of the metaphysical aspect and science division of the planned Community.
Lawyers
I am doing all of this myself, which requires studying a great deal of law and a lot of time and patience. If you are a lawyer and have knowledge in filing Certificates of Incorporation with New York State, filing with the IRS, or would just like to lend general legal help, please send me a PM or e-mail. It will be greatly appreciated.
Spreading the Word
Everyone else can help by either donating and/or just keep doing what you've been doing - telling others about the Community. It may not look like much now, but with everyone's help, it will grow.
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 Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 2:19 am
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Wraith
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I have a question - Is there a specific place I need to donate to the cause, or can I just donate to the site on the main page?
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Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 1:18 am
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Mike (Clodaus)
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You can just donate using any of the donate links on the site (main page to the left, bottom of every page, or to the left on .org).
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Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 1:21 am
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Mike (Clodaus)
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Thanks, Wraith 
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Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 2:38 am
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subspace5000
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Oooooook...
I hate to be a downer, but I doubt any of the organisations you need to to agree on this are going to take you seriously. The department of eductaion just might let you go ahead (some states have waved ID through, although I don't think NY is one of them), but I doubt the others will. They will probably assume that this is a prank.
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Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 6:54 pm
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Mike (Clodaus)
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Content should have nothing to do with it. For example, any riki organization registered would have to receive the same consent. The board of education simply ensures we are following educational laws. If they do decide that this is ridiculous, which they will not, we may simply be considered (by law) a "religion", thereby NOT requiring consent from them. Either way, the Community will still be able to be filed with the State. This is a legal document and will not be taken as a joke. It is either accepted or denied with a valid reason.
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Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 7:01 pm
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Malithion
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 Re: Support the Community's Filing
Paperwork! Oh boy!
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Well, I've talked to my mom. She's a lawyer of many years of experience, and she said to give you folks her number, as she is a consultant, so I'll PM you guys that. She did say a couple of things though:
1. Expect two years for the status to become real. The IRS is a huge, unwieldy, maw-like bureacracy (at least, that's my interpretation ), and it takes a huge amount of time for everyone to review it. The huge IRS fee is there because there's so many people that have to look at it. And, of course, it only becomes real if all the reviewers approve.
2. The 501(c)(3) form is approximately 8 pages long (although, I'm farily sure you are aware of how long it is), and once my mom gets a copy it will still require a back-and-forth between her and you to do.
3. Also, here's a note. It's not something she said, of course, but I'm putting it here anyway. She's a pretty open-minded person, and she's familiar with the otherkin concept, so I wouldn't worry about any problems there, if you're concerned. She does have to deal with me after all!
Anyway, that's what I know. I'll send you her number & e-mail. I'll also probably be donating to the site soon, if not imminently. Hope it helps.
Sincerely,
Malithion.
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Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 3:59 am
_________________ "The real meaning of enlightenment is to gaze with undimmed eyes on all darkness." -Nikos Kazantzakis
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Mike (Clodaus)
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Oh, excellent. Thank you very much  I'm looking forward to the information. I've been very busy lately so it my responses/actions may be a bit delayed, however I very much appreciate it.
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Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 8:42 am
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Alturia
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Ive helped set up papers for 501(c)3 before, so if theres anything I can help with, ask. I cant promise I'll know what to do, but I dont mind doing a bit of research to find out what to do.
Just a thought, it didnt cost us anything when we set up the last 501 for a heritage group, Im wondering if that was because we filed from South Dakota?
On another note I do know that it can be cheaper to incorperate in certian states and you DONT have to live in or actually do buisness in some states to incorperate there.
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Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 7:57 pm
_________________ Ohhh shiney! Can I have it? Can I? Please? Ok I'll just borrow it when youre not looking 
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Mike (Clodaus)
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Thanks for the suggestions, Alturia I'll look into that
Malithion's mother has been donating her time and we do have most of it covered. However if there's anything I feel you can help with I'll be more than happy to ask you.
We're working on finalizing some documents within the next couple weeks, and I'll have more information on that for everyone soon. While gaining tax-exempt status may be further off, we should be filed with the state within a couple months and officially be a corporation.
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Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 11:04 pm
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Mike (Clodaus)
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We should now be ready to send the Certificate of Incorporation to the New York Board of Education for consent. I'm waiting for the final go-ahead from the lawyer. Attached is the document which will be submitted, modified to hide my address and the names and addresses of the other directors. Note that the directors will be added to in the future, when the others are comfortable with the commitment and display of personal information. If the document changes before it is submitted, it will be updated within this post.
For those who are not aware, the Certificate of Incorporation is what will ultimately be submitted to the State. It states the purpose of the corporation, initial directors, and some other information. Once approved, The Otherkin Community will officially be a corporation.
Before we can file with the State, as this is an educational charity, we must gain consent from the Board of Education. I do not foresee any problems in this area, as other metaphysical organizations have gained consent. Once we have consent, we file with the State.
After that's all said and done with, we go through the hellish (and expensive) process of gaining tax-exempt status from the IRS.
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Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2008 7:21 pm Last edited by Mike (Clodaus) on Mon Oct 13, 2008 6:02 pm; edited 1 time in total
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Sweeeeeeeet. :3
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Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2008 8:06 pm
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It's good to see that this has finally come around. Whack me over the head, really really hard, if anyone needs me for anything, alright?
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Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 4:09 am
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