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sgaltair
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First of all I'd like to say hello to everyone here. I hope I can become a part of this community.
Now a little about me: I am an 18 year old male otherkin living in Gainesville Florida. I've been otherkin for nearly a year, and I've been pagan for about 2. I know this makes me rather 'young' but I would rather that not affect anyone's opinion of me. The 'other' part of me is a wolf. I know this is all too common and I will explain in the coming paragraphs as to why it is the wolf.
I was raised Apostolic Pentacostal (christian), and I drifted away from that in my mid to late teens. I became pagan after settling into a group of friends at highschool that were pagan and I realized that I was draw to their beliefs. Later I found out that many of those same friends were otherkin, specifically wolves, that is why I am one myself.
I believe in energy work, and I believe that force of will and belief is the essence of existence. That said, I believe that all the Deities in the various pantheons all exist in some respect. They exist because people have/do believe in them. All religions and spirituality's have power. I find that ch(k)aos magic makes a lot of sense to me, but I do not claim to be a chaoist(sp?). While I do believe the Deities exist, I do not follow any of them. I believe that between the energies that surround us and the energy that we have within us we can perform any 'magick' we want, within reason of our own capabilities and 'power'. I put those terms in quotes because I don't necessarily like those words, but they convey the meaning I am looking for.
My concept of being an otherkin is that you share your body with that of your totem, kin, what ever term you like to use. I visualize it as two silver cords, entwined together like a rope. Each cord is a soul, your own human soul and that of the wolf (in my case.) I believe there are two ways one can be otherkin. The first is to be born that way, through blood or simply because that is what your soul is meant to be. The other way is to be 'turned' (another word I dislike, because of how cliche it is). You are 'turned' when you invite/accept the soul of the wolf (again, in my case. I will use the wolf for the rest of this post for the sake of simplicity.) Those with Christian backgrounds (specifically protestant varieties which believe in receiving the Holy Spirit or Holy Ghost) can relate the two concepts. I was turned by my two best friends, both wolves. No I was not bitten, I was turned by the two of them focusing the wolf energy into me and by my own acceptance of said energy. Although, as cliche as it is, we do believe in being turned via biting. The concept is that the action contains passion and emotions are a strong driving force behind energy.
As far as what I call myself, the closest title I can think of is atheistic pagan. It's not that I don't believe in deities (as I've mentioned) but that I do not claim any of them. I think you should go with whatever path suits you.
As a side note, I believe Christianity has great power, because of the amount of belief and faith. I have two problems with Christianity. The first and foremost is the establishment under which it is organized, and the hypocrisy and politics that go with it. The second is that Christians do not believe that they have inherent power, but that they must receive it from God. Thus, many (I would even venture to say most) Christians do not realize how much power they possess. That said, the most powerful energy workers I know (though they would not call themselves that) are in fact Christians.
Venturing further into my explanations, I would like to say that I am an empath. I would also like to say that I have not titled myself that, but I have been called that by many people whom I respect and trust. My empathy is not of the variety in which I feel others emotions, but that I am aware of them.
I am also a healer of sorts. My power is limited and focused. Through energy manipulation i can relieve pain in people, but only those I love very dearly. My empathy is also driven by my love and/or passion towards a person. That said (yes I use that term a lot), it is not simply familiarity. Another limiting factor of this trait is that it is temporary. For most things it only works while I am actively doing it. I have successfully, on a few occasions, fully relieved (cured, if you will) some small ailments. Those ailment being headaches, abdominal pains and menstrual pains.
I will be the first to say that I lack experience as an energy worker, but I do not feel that degrades my ability or power any. I am not being arrogant, just stating that I feel as though I have grown much, despite my lack of practical experience.
I think that's all I wanted to say. If anyone would like to ask me any questions or discuss my beliefs I urge you to do so. Also, if anyone has a better 'title' for what I should call myself, please by all means put it forth  .
To those of you that took the time to read all that, I thank you and would love if you would post in this thread. And please, refer to me as Stephen (as that is my given name) or Altair, which is my primary pseudonym. And no, it is not from the game. I adopted that name long before the game came out. It simply came to me. It is of Arabic origin and means 'the flying one'. I do believe there is mythology behind it but I cannot recall it at the moment. Also, I pronounce it like it looks, not al-tie-ear.
Thanks for reading
-Altair
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sgaltair
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After typing this post out I figured it would be appropriate to add a disclaimer. Very little of the below post is relevant to the above one, and if you don't feel like reading it by all means do not. I'm in an odd mood and felt like sharing this.
I thought to add this just after submitting my last post, but I didn't want to edit it because I could not seem to find a place in the first post that it would be appropriate. This is just a little story I have. It's probably quite irrelevant but I feel like sharing it.
I myself have turned one other person. That person was a girl I was dating, and had been dating for about 18 months. I will make this story short, as any long explanation would simply be rambling.
We fully believed that we were going to marry each other and spend our entire lives together. After a lot of thought and discussion I decided to turn her. In the turning I also bound our souls (in hindsight, that was a mistake). She developed slowly as both an energy worker and a wolf.
A few months later, due to lifestyle conflicts, she broke up with me. In short, I wanted to drink and do drugs, she couldn't live with that. There were other problems, such as her not liking me hanging out with my friends. It should be noted that I never (I repeat, never) neglected her for my friends, and also that my friends were her friends and that she liked them. She was controlling and closed minded. She said she still loved me greatly after she left me... Still not sure if I believe her on that one. Anyway not only did she leave me but within a week she started dating a fellow energy worker, who I considered a friend. She tried to make me jealous with this relationship, which did not work. To be honest I had no ill will towards him at the time. She is very attractive. I did have an issue with her choice, because she left me because of the drugs and alcohol, but then she went to him knowing full well that he was into the same things.
I did not develop ill will (read: deep seated hatred) for this guy until later. Essentially what happened was that the bond I created was affecting her negatively, in both an emotional and physical manner. She became physically ill and was allegedly coughing up blood. He decided that there were two ways to fix this. To either remove the wolf, which is considered a very bad idea as it involved removing both souls, ripping them apart, and re-inserting the human soul, or to destroy or transfer the bond I had created. I did not approve of either idea, I knew that the effects would pass and she would recover fully. I would like to note that these negative effects were not intentional on my part. He decided to transfer the bond that I had created to himself, so that she would be bound to him instead. This is when the hate developed. If the world were not in the 'civilized' state that it is, that is, if we were living by what I believe to be the old rules (or 'code' if you will') I would have every right to do any combination of the following: kill him, destroy his soul, or curse his soul in some manner. Some may see this as harsh but it is a right that I believe I am entitled to, because I believe it is the utmost offense to alter (or destroy) anothers energy work without permission - especially when that work is a soul bond. I chose to do nothing.
I know that this was all essentially irrelevant but I felt that it may shed some light on what I have experienced, and maybe just a little about me.
If anyone cares to know, I have severed all ties with both of them. I did not take any action against them at all, physically, energetically, or 'politically'. I use that term because my true friends (being my pack and many others) are extremely loyal to me and if I asked them to exile (for lack of a better term) either of them, it would be done. A direct effect of this would be that they would lose most of their friends.
Anyway, that's that.
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Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2009 10:12 am
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Shiari
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Welcome to the forum.
You have apparently found out why forcing these beliefs onto someone, and trying to alter their energetic signature is a bad idea. I hope you have learned from it. Also, you're young. Alcohol and drugs are going to mess up your brain big-time and suck you dry of cash. I have an uncle who would be living on the streets if not for my grandmother's soft heart. Maybe I'm cold and callous... but I would not enable one of my offspring to continue destroying themselves.
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Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2009 11:50 am
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Heya, and welcome 
That's quite a story you have there.
EDIT: Moved to Introductions Forum.
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Posted: Sat Dec 19, 2009 12:48 am
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sgaltair
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| Shiari wrote: |
Welcome to the forum.
You have apparently found out why forcing these beliefs onto someone, and trying to alter their energetic signature is a bad idea. I hope you have learned from it. Also, you're young. Alcohol and drugs are going to mess up your brain big-time and suck you dry of cash. I have an uncle who would be living on the streets if not for my grandmother's soft heart. Maybe I'm cold and callous... but I would not enable one of my offspring to continue destroying themselves. |
I did not force the belief on her, she adopted it herself. The specific bond that I created WAS a bad idea.
As far as the drugs and alcohol go, I think that controlled and responsible consumption is ok. There are problems that develop when things get out of hand. But to each their own.
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Welcome to the community Altair I am Ryan the werefox. For the record someone who practices chaos magick and follows the beliefs is called a Discordian. I like your intro a lot. It is all very interesting. I too believe that all deities exist and except I have, as you put it, claimed a few as my patrons and matrons. Gaia, Pan, Vulpes, and Vadaria.
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Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2009 1:29 am
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Re: Introduction + Random explanations/questions
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| sgaltair wrote: |
| The other way is to be 'turned' (another word I dislike, because of how cliche it is). You are 'turned' when you invite/accept the soul of the wolf (again, in my case. I will use the wolf for the rest of this post for the sake of simplicity.) |
When the soul of the wolf was bound to you, where did it come from? Did it have a prior existence or was it created for the purposes of binding? Did it have any say in the matter? Is it capable of free will?
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| She became physically ill and was allegedly coughing up blood. |
I very much hope she received medical attention for this.
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| If the world were not in the 'civilized' state that it is, that is, if we were living by what I believe to be the old rules (or 'code' if you will') I would have every right to do any combination of the following: kill him, destroy his soul, or curse his soul in some manner. Some may see this as harsh but it is a right that I believe I am entitled to, because I believe it is the utmost offense to alter (or destroy) anothers energy work without permission - especially when that work is a soul bond. |
Wait, let me get this right.
A woman was suffering, and she and her boyfriend believed this was the result of some energy work that had been done on her. They decided to alter that energy work in a manner that they believed would help her (I don't think you said how she felt after this was done). And you believe that gives you the moral right to kill her boyfriend, destroy his soul, or curse him. Is that an accurate assessment?
I'm also interested in your methods for binding souls, summoning souls, and destroying souls. That all seems really rather advanced and definitely worth discussing.
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I agree with archer. That does seem rather advanced and is definitely worth discussing further
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Posted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 2:54 am
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Re: Introduction + Random explanations/questions
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| Archer wrote: |
When the soul of the wolf was bound to you, where did it come from? Did it have a prior existence or was it created for the purposes of binding? Did it have any say in the matter? Is it capable of free will?
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The soul exists, already. Essentially it is whatever makes a wolf, a wolf. It did have a say in the matter, I could have been rejected if it had chose to. I've seen people e rejected, for whatever reason. I think that the majority of the time though it's because they want 'proof' and don't actually believe. Why would a soul bond to someone who doesn't even believe it exists? I think that the soul has free will, but once it is bound to the human they sort of share. There are times when the wolf tries to/does take over.
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I very much hope she received medical attention for this.
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Against my advice, she did not. The first thing I told her to do was to go to a hospital. Even if it was a spiritual issue manifesting physically they could have at least helped.
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Wait, let me get this right.
A woman was suffering, and she and her boyfriend believed this was the result of some energy work that had been done on her. They decided to alter that energy work in a manner that they believed would help her (I don't think you said how she felt after this was done). And you believe that gives you the moral right to kill her boyfriend, destroy his soul, or curse him. Is that an accurate assessment?
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It is somewhat correct, though you make it sound much more malevolent than it is. My energy work comes from my soul. It comes from passion and will. What he did was akin to having your child kidnapped and led to believe that the kidnapper is the rightful parent. For the record, she did feel better after the bond was transferred and I'm glad she did. It is my belief that directly altering another persons energy work, especially something as important as a soul bond, is a great offense.
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I'm also interested in your methods for binding souls, summoning souls, and destroying souls. That all seems really rather advanced and definitely worth discussing. |
Honestly the methods are somewhat abstract and tend to vary from person to person. This is because our energy work comes from our force of will. The idea is simply to will the thing to happen, and to believe that it has/will. More often than not it works rather well. Obviously trouble arises when there is a 'battle of wills'.
I created the bond when I 'turned' her. The bond was created for the purposes of love. At the time we believed we'd be together for the rest of our lives. Yes, I do know that was an immature teenage pipedream but it felt right at the moment.
Summoning is like any other energy work. We tend not to use rituals and the like, though they are beneficial when a lot of maintained focus is necessary.
As far as destroying, I have never done it because I don't generally practice harmful energy work. I imagine it would involve a great deal of effort though.
The interesting thing is that the girl has now dumped the guy and now we're friends again, she is also trying to get back with me (but this is all irrelevant to this discussion). On a side note she has had trouble doing energy work since she began. She says that it burns. I never understood why this was but since we've been associating again it occurred to me that she may just need an energy/chakra cleansing. I did this and apparently she's no longer having troubles.
If you'd like to discuss more let me know, I'm more than willing to share more.
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Posted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 5:59 pm
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