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HollyAtedYouz
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I have been wondering for a while now...
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Well mostly i am just really confused on this subject. Lately i have had some... odd experiences. Like whenever I am in a church for more than ten minute, I will feel my phantom wings (along with my tail that seems to stay with me forever) and i will have the urge to jump into the air and fly quickly out. I can't really... explain this all to well because it was really odd... it was like.. it was NATURAL for me to be able to do that... like i was supposed too. Yet when the subject of Hell was brought up at the church, i seemed to be more relaxed and very curious.
This seemes to happen any time i am in a situation or place i really don't like or fear. I have began to notice that my phantom tail will always stay and that my wings, ears, fangs, and claws will come and go. Flying dreams have come and gone and so have my dreams of swimming under water with no air.
So my true question is: What is a shapeshifter? Are there even any shapeshifters? Is that the correct term (shapeshifter)?
I would love any answers on any of those.
Holly
P.S Oh! My friend was really wondering about the 'black veil'? She said it had something to do with vampires (it was around ten and i am sick so i can't remember it well.). Thanks
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 Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 2:07 pm
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I am a shapeshifter.
A shapeshifter is an entity able to take 2 or more forms which has a default form it returns back to.
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Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 3:37 pm
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Oh okay. Thank you. So it would be normal to have many different phantom limbs but one staying?
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Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 3:45 pm
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| HollyAtedYouz wrote: |
| Oh okay. Thank you. So it would be normal to have many different phantom limbs but one staying? |
I think so. I have a set of phantom wings that stay constantly, but then I'll have a tail or ears or claws or teeth, etc. that come and go depending on my mood.
This is a question from me: what's the difference between polymorph and shapeshifter? I've always identified as polymorphic because I have one base form but then I shift between different forms.
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Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 6:15 pm
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A subtle body is very malleable in general. Just because it changes shape doesn't definitively mean anything.
And how clearly one feels one's phantom limbs can vary, so even if it feels like the change doesn't mean they do.
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To echo what others have said, yes, a shapeshifter is one that can change forms, but still has a "base" that they return to.
Changing phantom limbs might not be the best indicator of this, however. Like Miniar said, the energetic body is quite fluid. In fact, there is a term called "cameo shifting" that therians often use (I believe) , which basically means that they take on phantom limbs that don't directly correlate to what they identify as. In other words, it's somewhat common.
Also, flying dreams are quite a natural human phenomena.
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Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 8:36 pm
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Yeah.  the dreams are still just dreams for me but the church thing have still gotten me puzzled...
I come from a babtist family that is very religous on both sides. The fact that i hate church is weird to my family. They think it is because their church is not the most fun, but i feel as if it is something more. Just the word 'god' bugs me sometimes and i will lash out at people when they use it. The feeling of flying away, in the sky, it all seems so natural, so right, like i am supposed to be able to do that.
*Shrugs* I don't know but it is very confusing to me.
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If you're trying to imply that you're demonic, I'd advise you to look a bit deeper than your dislike of religion/Church/God. Many people dislike it - many people are also not demonic at all.
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Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 11:11 pm
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| Shangrila wrote: |
This is a question from me: what's the difference between polymorph and shapeshifter? I've always identified as polymorphic because I have one base form but then I shift between different forms. |
I thought I'd take a stab at this since I consider myself a subset of the polymorph kin.
To me, I think it generally gets broken down like:
Shapeshifter: A being that can shift between several set forms, with a base form to return to. A shapeshifter is usually limited to certain forms or a certain number.
Polymorph: A being that can shift between any number of forms, likely won't have single base form. Probably a form that's more comfortable, but not something they automatically return to.
Just my personal definition of it for you, Shangrila. The definitions can vary. I think there's some threads laying around here somewhere on the topic too with other people's opinions you can get a look at, I'm pretty sure I saw one. 
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| Shangrila wrote: |
This is a question from me: what's the difference between polymorph and shapeshifter? I've always identified as polymorphic because I have one base form but then I shift between different forms. |
I thought I'd take a stab at this since I consider myself a subset of the polymorph kin.
To me, I think it generally gets broken down like:
Shapeshifter: A being that can shift between several set forms, with a base form to return to. A shapeshifter is usually limited to certain forms or a certain number.
Polymorph: A being that can shift between any number of forms, likely won't have single base form. Probably a form that's more comfortable, but not something they automatically return to.
Just my personal definition of it for you, Shangrila. The definitions can vary. I think there's some threads laying around here somewhere on the topic too with other people's opinions you can get a look at, I'm pretty sure I saw one. |
Thanks, that helps. But now I'm confused on me, lol. Because I feel I have one set form [could be wrong, I don't know yet] but I can shift through tons of forms (I'll probably post something later on me).
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I was not implying i am demonic at all. I have had my past thoughts about that. its really hard to explain what happens when i am there... And about the different phantom limbs i have my tail constantly and then my wings are the other dominent one. Then my ears and fangs and claws come and go.
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| Shangrila wrote: |
This is a question from me: what's the difference between polymorph and shapeshifter? I've always identified as polymorphic because I have one base form but then I shift between different forms. |
I thought I'd take a stab at this since I consider myself a subset of the polymorph kin.
To me, I think it generally gets broken down like:
Shapeshifter: A being that can shift between several set forms, with a base form to return to. A shapeshifter is usually limited to certain forms or a certain number.
Polymorph: A being that can shift between any number of forms, likely won't have single base form. Probably a form that's more comfortable, but not something they automatically return to.
Just my personal definition of it for you, Shangrila. The definitions can vary. I think there's some threads laying around here somewhere on the topic too with other people's opinions you can get a look at, I'm pretty sure I saw one. |
Thanks, that helps. But now I'm confused on me, lol. Because I feel I have one set form [could be wrong, I don't know yet] but I can shift through tons of forms (I'll probably post something later on me). |
This whole topic is really fascinating... I feel that you're on the right track there Angel. What complicates things in my mind is when you have different combinations of energy in the same place- say a spirit being who is generally polymorphic residing inside a physical body that has a shapeshifter heritage or training (Half-celestial therian) and limited forms. The spirit being, working within the spirit realm, would be able to shift polymorphically and experience that; in the material sense it would have a more difficult time bringing physical shifts that fall outside the constraints of the shapeshifter abilities.
If its a multi-lineal heritage it could get even more complicated, while any nurtured abilities would fit more smoothly with a spiritual being as it would be consciously experiencing their formation and integrating them.
@ Holly- I know the feeling you have with churches... even walking by them gives me the creeps. I personally believed the whole 'christian' faith was hijacked before it really got going and everything built out of the Roman Catholic tradition (yes, even the Baptists... the RCs had done too good a job covering up the past) is a product of energies opposite to which they claim. My own dialogue with the Abrahamic religions is one of curiosity and mistrust. I've always been more drawn to true tribal mythologies (which is found in the Judeo-Christian tradition, but heavily veiled and denied).
Churches are built to channel energy; specifically, to the Judeo-Christian phallic figure Yahweh and the rigid hierarchy he is the patriarch of. No offense to church goers (or vampires), but I find it vampiric and creepy, with little reciprocal energy at all.
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Yeah and i always have to go with my grandparents, even if i don't want to. I usually go off with my sister where i can get off topic and out of the church and just roam around the property.
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| HollyAtedYouz wrote: |
Yeah. the dreams are still just dreams for me but the church thing have still gotten me puzzled...
I come from a babtist family that is very religous on both sides. The fact that i hate church is weird to my family. They think it is because their church is not the most fun, but i feel as if it is something more. Just the word 'god' bugs me sometimes and i will lash out at people when they use it. The feeling of flying away, in the sky, it all seems so natural, so right, like i am supposed to be able to do that.
*Shrugs* I don't know but it is very confusing to me. |
Church is boring, I'll admit that. The term "god" has been used ages before the Judeo-Christian time period. Just because you don't like the word doesn't mean anything, the same with disliking church. I dislike church greatly, but I don't dislike the churches themselves because I usually love the architecture within.
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This whole topic is really fascinating... I feel that you're on the right track there Angel. What complicates things in my mind is when you have different combinations of energy in the same place- say a spirit being who is generally polymorphic residing inside a physical body that has a shapeshifter heritage or training (Half-celestial therian) and limited forms. The spirit being, working within the spirit realm, would be able to shift polymorphically and experience that; in the material sense it would have a more difficult time bringing physical shifts that fall outside the constraints of the shapeshifter abilities.
If its a multi-lineal heritage it could get even more complicated, while any nurtured abilities would fit more smoothly with a spiritual being as it would be consciously experiencing their formation and integrating them.
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You've really confused me. What physical shifts? I don't think I ever said anything about physical shifts, and I think that pretty much angels and celestials are a blob of energy and nothing physical so there would be no physical shifting. Could you explain more of what you were saying because I think I might have misunderstood?
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@ Holly- I know the feeling you have with churches... even walking by them gives me the creeps. I personally believed the whole 'christian' faith was hijacked before it really got going and everything built out of the Roman Catholic tradition (yes, even the Baptists... the RCs had done too good a job covering up the past) is a product of energies opposite to which they claim. My own dialogue with the Abrahamic religions is one of curiosity and mistrust. I've always been more drawn to true tribal mythologies (which is found in the Judeo-Christian tradition, but heavily veiled and denied).
Churches are built to channel energy; specifically, to the Judeo-Christian phallic figure Yahweh and the rigid hierarchy he is the patriarch of. No offense to church goers (or vampires), but I find it vampiric and creepy, with little reciprocal energy at all. |
I've been studying the Christian faith from it's very roots for awhile now and I have yet to see anything where it was "hijacked". All I can see is where the Jewish Christians [yes, originally they were Jewish Christians because they didn't feel that they were different than the Jews of the time period except that they believed the Messiah had come] and where the Christians split apart. I then see a religion trying to struggle and slowly working it's way through the Roman Empire and then finally got going and some people started to change parts of it [the Arian Christians, the Coptic Christians, etc.]. If you talk with some of the more well-versed clergy of the Catholic church most will not deny that the older mythologies are within Christianity--the same with Judaism. It's the laymen who generally have issues accepting it.
All sorts of religious sites are built to "channel energy" and most of it probably is like what you said above. I've never felt anything wrong with any of the Christian sites and I've never felt anything wrong with any other religious site for that matter, I think it comes from what mind set you have about a certain religion.
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The black veil is a sort of optative code of conduct for psi vamps...
I'll post a link:
http://psychicvampire.org/blackveil.htm
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