| Should the Otherkin Forums be a haven or open to criticism? |
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Mike (Clodaus)
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 Haven or Public?
Regarding the Otherkin Forums only.
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I suppose now is a good time as any to ask for the members' input. The Otherkin Community was founded as both a scientific community and as a haven for Otherkin. Due to the scientific aspect, criticism is not only welcomed, it's encouraged, so long as it's done in a mature and productive manner. That will not change in the General, Metaphysical and Science forums. I'm only addressing the Otherkin forums in this post.
My question is this - should these forums be a pure haven, completely shut off from criticism, or should some criticism be allowed? If so, to what degree? Essentially myself and the other moderators need to know what to do differently when it comes to these forums, so keeping with the spirit of the community, the members will decide.
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All (Otherkin) members will be able to express what they wish without resistance from outside communities. Skeptics will be allowed to view and post questions in order to further their knowledge on Otherkin, but if they disrupt the forums in any way, they will be disallowed from posting in them (temporarily or permanently). They will still be welcome to post in the other forums unless they violate the TOS.
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Outside communities will be allowed to post and comment on the posts in the Otherkin forums with a degree of freedom. They will not be allowed to insult, disrupt, or harass members, but they will be allowed to express their opinions as to why they believe they are right and Otherkin are wrong. They will not be allowed to attempt to force their beliefs on others - nobody anywhere on the community may do so.
The poll will end in two weeks. At that time, the majority of votes wins unless a major point is brought up that causes us to rethink the direction of this poll. Until that time, it will be moderated as the forum description states - a haven.
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 Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 8:13 pm Last edited by Mike (Clodaus) on Sat Oct 13, 2007 9:46 pm; edited 4 times in total
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xstardragonx
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I think it would be good to have the Otherkin forum be open to criticism, but then maybe have a subforum inside of it that is a haven for us.
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Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 10:21 pm
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Re: Haven or Public?
Regarding the Otherkin Forums only.
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Posts by this user have been censored per his/her request.
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Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 11:00 pm
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Luinbariel
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I agree that this place should stay a haven. There are other boards out there that get criticized enough... let this one remain a safe haven for all who wish it.
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Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 11:36 pm
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i voted for haven. some otherkin who are still new to the topic are really scared to talk about their beliefs, so it would be easier if there was not too much critique, even if they state slightly absurd claims... but okay, if someone says he's lucifer, we should try and help that person to find out the truth - politely.
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Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 12:15 pm
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Naki
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hey! but i am luc... ah ...never mind.  ;D
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Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 12:17 pm Last edited by Naki on Thu Sep 20, 2007 12:36 pm; edited 1 time in total
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I agree with kahoku, if questions and different meaning is also allowed in heaven 
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Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 12:27 pm
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Aarundard
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I don't have a problem with some criticism, as long as its mature and good natured. I would love to hear why others don't believe, in an intelligent manner. I believe it helps us know more about ourselves when people have doubts, and express them. As long as no one is insulting (from ether end) I see no problem with it. Also, a little debate is good for you 
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Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 12:01 pm
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Mike (Clodaus)
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Wow, the poll is a 5/5 split at the moment. I never would have expected that - I'm glad I asked you guys.
Should the poll be close (or even if it's not), we'll do the best to satisfy both parties. For example, if the Otherkin Forums are open to criticism, we'll provide subforum(s) to serve as a haven. I'm not sure what the best method would be for the opposite considering the current forum layout.
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Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 7:10 pm
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Shira
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First post in like 3 weeks! Omg!
I think haven, I like the feel of this place (not that I'm here too often, I just wonder around chat) and it being a haven has really helped me open up.
now 6/5.
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Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 7:14 pm
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anonymousguy
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Definitely public. Criticism is the best way to start a debate, as long as it doesn't become flame wars.
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Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 12:50 pm
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I think there should be a neutral option here, as that is what I am. I can see the argument on both sides. However, I will admit that at the time of my first joining the OC, I viewed it as more of a haven than some place for public debate. I do believe that it would be a good idea to have a forum specifically for such things like criticism and such, and as long as it is constructive, not destructive. Anyone who is an artist knows how negative effects of destructive crit can be. The same is certainly true, if not more so, in this case. So as long as it doesn't get out of hand, I'd say having a forum for public debate is a good idea.
In that light, however, I believe the majority of the forum should be a haven. That is how I viewed it when I joined, and in many ways I seek refuge here when I am having a hard time with every day troubles, because I know there are others here who are not only kind individuals, but also have similar beliefs as I do. So it makes things far more relaxing and a wonderful place to come and relax and unwind. Particularly the chats, really.
So... I am split. I can see it both ways. But if I am to put forth a vote, I will put it towards a haven. *nod* =^ ^=
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Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 6:00 pm
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Shira
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I agree with every Tsuki just said in terms that it is generally seen as a haven (so it seems) and should not be shifted from that original image.
However, that being said, I already proposed the same thing Tsuki did in which certain additions can be made to the forum to allow both sides to be happy. ^^
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Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 7:56 pm
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Mike (Clodaus)
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Not enough votes - the poll's been lengthened.
Edit: No additional votes were made. The Otherkin forums will remain a haven. I will make a post regarding that shortly.
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Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 8:30 pm
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I think it should be a little bit of both actually. Thats what I always been searching for and its what I'm trying to do with my own forum nowadays. To keep things fun for both kin and other interested people. Although there obviously is a difference between criticism and just blunt bashing.
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Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 12:05 am
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